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Oh, whew. It is nice to see them all back on the same page. Or on pages in the same book, at least. Even Keller was being selfishly selfless, everything maneuvering nicely to get to that endpoint *wonders about the chess metaphor again* where Neal has the chance of freedom. And what will he do with it, if he gets it? Will this become a "two FBI agents" show? I somehow doubt it, but equally I doubt he's going back to criminality or Europe.

(I am amusingly reminded of the show I haven't checked on updates for in a while, "Once Upon a Time," in which the characters are magically restricted from leaving the town of Storybrook. I was getting the impression that New York had the same magical barrier around it. Or at least you can't go farther than pigeon-distance.)

And, be still my heart. "You." That was a moment, that was. Nicely undercut, too. "Oh, and everybody else too. And the elevator."

I admit to being somewhat bemused by the tendency in fandom toward the P/E/N threesome (don't get me wrong, [personal profile] sahiya, you write it very well!). The way I see it, Neal is obviously in love with Peter, and Peter and Elizabeth obviously want to be Neal's parents, even if they're not old enough, and any sexual tension derives from the incompatibility of that situation, though most of the tension on the show is not sexual. Neal is not exclusively in love with Peter, of course; his fatal flaw is his need to fall in love, so he's also crazy about El and Mozzie and Sara and Raphaels and elevators and... but Peter is special.

I would actually like to get Peter and El in a room with Amy and Rory to talk about relationships. Well... perhaps I could take a brief fic-writing break at some point...?

Date: 2012-01-19 05:27 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] sahiya
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I think the chess metaphor comes more from Neal and Keller's previous interactions. He sent Neal random chess moves in the mail, and it was an overall metaphor in "Payback" as well.

his fatal flaw is his need to fall in love, so he's also crazy about El and Mozzie and Sara and Raphaels and elevators and... but Peter is special.

I would agree with that.

Date: 2012-01-20 10:31 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] dhae_knight_1
dhae_knight_1: My kitten Zasha (Default)
I'm sorry, I'm just gonna wade in here and start talking away at you, but I just watched the ep, and I needed to see if everybody else thought it was brilliant and stumbled on you, and...

*takes deep breath*

Anyway, I like the view you have of Neal, although I tend to fall more into the threesome of 'Neal loves Peter, but cares too much about PeterAndEl to even think of doing anything to risk their marriage', 'Peter's been insanely obsessed with Neal for *years*, but don't want to risk his marriage to El for anything' and 'El's looking at the men in her life and shaking her head slightly in fond exasperation'. I can do Peter/Neal and Peter/El simultaneously, but I find a real threesome difficult to picture. (Now, El/Mozzie, for some reason... but let's not go into that)

I think, perhaps, I see Neal with a craving for belonging somewhere, but at the same time I see him needing to be challenged constantly. He's like a kid from an abusive home who constantly tests the boundaries and where every time he's called on it, it means that someone cares enough about him. With the added sexual component that, really? Neal gets off on people outsmarting him.

Date: 2012-01-21 06:43 am (UTC)From: [personal profile] dhae_knight_1
dhae_knight_1: My kitten Zasha (Default)
Heh. Well Peter's sexual component is that he needs people to challenge him. As El does. As Neal does. And as absolutely noone else in the cast does. He needs someone who'll play with him; be playful and teasing and someone he has to stretch his intellectual muscles to keep up with.

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